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JULY 13, 1993

TELEPHONE CALL FROM ADM HEADQUARTERS



FOREIGN CO-CONSPIRATOR EXPRESSES RELUCTANCE
TO MEET IN THE UNITED STATES


Segment 2 - July 13, 1993, ADM Headquarters, Decatur, Illinois - Telephone Call To Tokyo, Japan - Audio Tape

WHITACRE: And regarding our, and regarding our next meeting,...

MIMOTO: Yeah.

WHITACRE: I think that, now our next meeting, since you guys hosted the Vancouver meeting, I think ADM should host the next meeting. Don't ya think?

MIMOTO: Yeah. That's fine.

WHITACRE: And maybe we host it in, uh, Maui.

MIMOTO: Maui?

WHITACRE: The lysine, you know, have the lysine meeting, the group meeting like we had last time in Vancouver.

MIMOTO: Yeah.

WHITACRE: The group lysine meeting, to have it in Maui, Hawaii.

MIMOTO: Maui, Hawaii is, uh, still the United States.

WHITACRE: Yeah, but what's that mean? Still the United States?

MIMOTO: Well, still the United States means, uh, United States is, ah, very severe for the control of antitrust activity, no?

WHITACRE: Yeah, but you think in a, in a hotel in...

MIMOTO: (ui-talking at same time).

WHITACRE: Hawaii next to an eighteen hole golf course?

MIMOTO: (Laughs). No, uh, if your company judges no problem, maybe I will consult with, ah, our legal department.

WHITACRE: Well, you know we met Kyowa, we met Kyowa in Hawaii, Maui, about a year ago, I think.

MIMOTO: I know, one-to-one is alright, but this kind of, well maybe we can call it, ah, association for the establishment of our association.

WHITACRE: Yeah, that's right. It could be a formal association meeting.

MIMOTO: Maui, Maui is very convenient for us, but, uh, I don't know.

WHITACRE: It, it, for one, it'd be a formal association meeting to, to starting of our association...

MIMOTO: Hum.

WHITACRE: and also would be a good distance for you and us both together.

MIMOTO: (ui). That's right.

WHITACRE: Only about half way for each of us.

MIMOTO: Yeah, yeah, that's right. And be on the golf course, I think.

WHITACRE: Yeah

MIMOTO: Uh, no big problem.

WHITACRE: And I think you country owns...

MIMOTO: (ui).

WHITACRE: Hawaii anyway. So.

MIMOTO: Yeah, that's right. So, uh, well, anyway, I will get that advice from our legal department.

WHITACRE: Yeah, okay, and we got, we got...

MIMOTO: But, uh...

WHITACRE: time on that. That meeting wasn't gonna happen till one, we figured out the mechanics of the association...

MIMOTO: Hmm.

WHITACRE: first, and two, to make sure these prices really go up.