JULY 13, 1993

TELEPHONE CALL FROM ADM HEADQUARTERS

FOREIGN CO-CONSPIRATOR EXPRESSES RELUCTANCE

TO MEET IN THE UNITED STATES

Segment 2 - July 13, 1993, ADM Headquarters, Decatur, Illinois - Telephone Call To Tokyo, Japan - Audio Tape

WHITACRE:	And regarding our, and regarding our next meeting,...

MIMOTO:	Yeah.

WHITACRE:	I think that, now our next meeting, since you guys hosted the Vancouver meeting, I think ADM should host the next meeting. Don't ya think?

MIMOTO:	Yeah. That's fine.

WHITACRE:	And maybe we host it in, uh, Maui.

MIMOTO:	Maui?

WHITACRE:	The lysine, you know, have the lysine meeting, the group meeting like we had last time in Vancouver.

MIMOTO:	Yeah.

WHITACRE:	The group lysine meeting, to have it in Maui, Hawaii.

MIMOTO:	Maui, Hawaii is, uh, still the United States.

WHITACRE:	Yeah, but what's that mean? Still the United States?

MIMOTO:	Well, still the United States means, uh, United States is, ah, very severe for the control of antitrust activity, no?

WHITACRE:	Yeah, but you think in a, in a hotel in...

MIMOTO:	(ui-talking at same time).

WHITACRE:	Hawaii next to an eighteen hole golf course?

MIMOTO:	(Laughs). No, uh, if your company judges no problem, maybe I will consult with, ah, our legal department.

WHITACRE:	Well, you know we met Kyowa, we met Kyowa in Hawaii, Maui, about a year ago, I think.

MIMOTO:	I know, one-to-one is alright, but this kind of, well maybe we can call it, ah, association for the establishment of our association.

WHITACRE:	Yeah, that's right. It could be a formal association meeting.

MIMOTO:	Maui, Maui is very convenient for us, but, uh, I don't know.

WHITACRE:	It, it, for one, it'd be a formal association meeting to, to starting of our association...

MIMOTO:	Hum.

WHITACRE:	and also would be a good distance for you and us both together.

MIMOTO:	(ui). That's right.

WHITACRE:	Only about half way for each of us.

MIMOTO:	Yeah, yeah, that's right. And be on the golf course, I think.

WHITACRE:	Yeah

MIMOTO:	Uh, no big problem.

WHITACRE:	And I think you country owns...

MIMOTO:	(ui).

WHITACRE:	Hawaii anyway. So.

MIMOTO:	Yeah, that's right. So, uh, well, anyway, I will get that advice from our legal department.

WHITACRE:	Yeah, okay, and we got, we got...

MIMOTO:	But, uh...

WHITACRE:	time on that. That meeting wasn't gonna happen till one, we figured out the mechanics of the association...

MIMOTO:	Hmm.

WHITACRE:	first, and two, to make sure these prices really go up.