Attorney General News Conference with DC Mayor Anthony Williams and DC Police Chief Charles Ramsey
June 13, 2001
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: Good afternoon. It's a privilege for me to join Mayor Williams and
Metropolitan Police Chief Ramsey to announce an agreement between the Department of Justice,
the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department. It's an agreement to enhance
law enforcement, it's an agreement to prevent the excessive use of force by those that we trust to
enforce the law.
We are gathered here today at a time of great grief for the District law enforcement community
and for all residents of Washington, D.C. And as a person who maintains a home on 3rd Street, I
put myself in that population. This morning a black drape was hung on the wall of the Metro
Transit Police Headquarters in Northwest Washington. It was a drape to signal that the
Metropolitan Police had lost -- the Metro Police had lost one of their own. Metro Transit Officer
Marlon Francisco Morales was a dedicated law enforcement official. He was a Gulf War veteran.
He was a father of three, including three-week old Megan (sp). Officer Morales was shot in the
line of duty and he died this morning on the day of his oldest son, Jeremy's birthday. Officer
Morales' family is in our prayers today, his memory is in our hearts, and his dedication guides us
to a deeper commitment to the noble cause of law enforcement that he died serving.
The agreement we are announcing today is in furtherance of that noble cause of law enforcement.
It implements new policies and procedures regarding the use of force training, management,
supervision, and discipline practices at the Metropolitan D.C. Police Department. It is the result
of an unprecedented act of outreach by Mayor Williams and Chief Ramsey. They came to the
Department of Justice in 1999 and requested that the Civil Rights Division investigate whether
there was a pattern of excessive force use at the police department. In addition, they asked the
division to identify any reasons for the occurrence of excessive force and to work with them to
develop practices that minimize and deter excessive use of force.
The Department of Justice agreed to this request. We undertook a comprehensive examination of
the police department. We analyzed over five years of force incidents, reviewed MPD policies
and procedures, and audited MPD training courses, and gathered information from people who
live and work in the District. We found that 15.6 percent of the randomly sampled use of force
incidents involved use of excessive force by MPD officers. This contrasts with a target figure of
no more than 1 to 2 percent. Based on this information, the Department of Justice concluded that
in the past, there had been a pattern or practice of excessive force.
Today's agreement targets this problem, addressing all aspects of MPD's use of force, including
policies, management practices, supervision, discipline, training, and monitoring of use of force.
Thanks to the extraordinary cooperation that we have received, I am pleased to report to you that
significant progress has already been made. While our investigation was under way, the
Metropolitan Police Department embraced and began to initiate a number of reforms designed to
improve police practices regarding the use of force. And these reforms have already shown
Serious uses of force, including shootings and canine bites, have been decreased without
impairing the MPD's ability to fight crime or placing its own officers' safety at risk. In the mid-1990s, MPD officers were involved in as many as 16 fatal shootings each year. In 1999, the
number of fatal shootings decreased to four. In the year 2000, the number decreased to two. This
year there have been three fatal shootings to date. Likewise, reforms in the use of canine policy
have led to a 70 percent reduction in canine bites.
These reforms have been implemented without impairing the ability of the police department to
fight crime. In fact, last year we saw a decline in the number of murders and in the crime indexed
in the District of Columbia. We are confident that when the reforms contained in this agreement
are implemented fully, the D.C. Metropolitan Police will be a model for the nation on how to
uphold the rule of law while using force only when and to the extent necessary. And we hope that
the cooperative approach adopted by the MPD and the Department of Justice likewise will serve
as a model for how the Justice Department can help police agencies fix problems and address
circumstances that require attention in regard to the defense of the people's liberty and the
enforcement of the people's laws.
Mayor Williams and Chief Ramsey deserve our praise for their courage in asking for the
investigation and for their commitment to improving the District of Columbia Metropolitan
Police Department's practices. And the officers of the Metropolitan Police Department deserve
our thanks for their cooperation. Without their earnest cooperation, this show of progress would
not be possible.
I look forward to working with the mayor, the police chief, the Metropolitan Police Department
officials as partners in a problem- solving effort to make sure that they enjoy the trust and respect
of everyone in the District of Columbia.
I might add that the appropriate level of trust and respect between the citizenry and those who are
responsible for enforcing the law as full-time participants in the governmental responsibility of
law enforcement -- that trust is fundamental to the achievement of the kind of safe and secure and
orderly communities that we must have and that we want for our families and for ourselves. And
it is the basis for that trust that comes through cooperation and working together that can provide
a higher quality of life for Americans.
I thank you very much, and I welcome to the podium the mayor of the District of Columbia for
his remarks. Mayor Williams.
MAYOR WILLIAMS: Let me say good afternoon to everyone, and let me acknowledge our
Attorney General Ashcroft; my deputy mayor for public safety, Margaret Kellems, who's with us
today; and Chief Chuck Ramsey; and join all of them and certainly all the citizens of our nation's
capital in extending our condolences to Officer Morales's family and to WMATA for
their loss and our loss at a very, very troubling time.
And I agree with our attorney general that this speaks to the need more than ever to foster and
promote the kind of partnerships that we're pursuing today in the interest of public safety and law
You know, a year ago, MPD protected the residents of our city and the leaders of the world as
protesters, we all know, descended on our city at the meeting of the World Bank and the IMF.
This is a responsibility of our city. It's something that we can't shirk. You know, I've often said
that I'd like to have them meet out on some cruise ship in the middle of the ocean, but they can't;
they have to meet here. So we have to deal with it. And they do it well, our police department.
In January, we all know that our police department -- and I was very, very proud of Chief
Ramsey -- did an excellent job as a peacekeeper of a democratic transition in securing the safety
of our city during the president's Inauguration.
The fact is, a good job is being done. Crime in our city is at its lowest point in three decades,
proving that community policing and resident partnerships can and do make a difference.
And today our MPD, I'm proud to say, makes another step in improving itself, advancing law
enforcement as a profession and addressing the needs of our communities. I'm proud to tell you
that our MPD has voluntarily asked the Department of Justice to help lessen its use of force.
Now, in 1998 we all know there wasn't a lot to be proud of. In a national study on the use of force
our department ranked last -- last. But since that time MPD has reformed its practices and
improved its performance. Officer-involved shootings fell 78 percent from 1998 to 2000, and
citizen complaints of excessive force fell 36 percent from 1999 to 2000. And with today's
memorandum of understanding, the improvement will continue. Rather than being forced into
reform by the Justice Department, this voluntary pact between the Justice Department, the
District and the Metropolitan Police outlines 100 critical tasks from working with citizens to
review force cases to early identification of officers using too much force with specific time lines
for completion. Some tasks have already begun; others will take some time. But we have a road
map now and an agenda for improvement, and very importantly, a commitment of all the parties
to follow through toward that destination and toward that objective.
Now, we expect our officers to perform extraordinarily difficult and dangerous tasks, and we see
that danger certainly right now. We provide them with the authority to use force, including
deadly force, to carry out that mission. But ensuring that officers use force appropriately and
judiciously and use that discretion properly is critical to the integrity of our justice system, our
public safety system, and even most importantly, to the trust of the community we serve. So it's
with that spirit in mind and with that goal that we all maintain and promote that I am very, very
happy to be here today to foster the partnership that we've had in many, many different areas with
the Justice Department in this important endeavor.
And as you all know, it's easy as mayor to take credit for a lot of things like this on a local level,
but the work has to get done somewhere. And it's done by our men and women in blue. And it's
done by a leader of our police department who I think is second to none in our local law
enforcement, and that is our own chief, Charles Ramsey. I'm proud of the work that he does. I'm
proud to be his partner in every neighborhood, in every block, in every community in this city.
Ladies and gentlemen, our chief, Chuck Ramsey.
CHIEF RAMSEY: Thank you very much, General Ashcroft and Mayor Williams,
for all your support and helping us get to this day. I'd also like to acknowledge
my immediate boss, Margaret Combs (sp), deputy mayor for public safety and justice.
And one person who isn't here and one person who is here, for their
hard work in putting this agreement together -- Steve Rosenbaum, from the Department
of Justice Civil Rights Division who, from the very beginning, worked very hard
with us over about a two-and-a-half-year period, and only those people in Justice
and in my department that were part of the working groups know how difficult
that was, over that period of time; and Terry Gaynor (sp), who is not here today,
but who really spearheaded this effort for me, in the police department, to
make all this a reality.
There is no issue that is of more importance in law enforcement than the issue of use of force by
police officers. We expect our police officers to perform extraordinarily difficult and dangerous
tasks, and we provide our officers with the authority to use force, up to and including deadly
force, in carrying out their work. Ensuring that our officers use that authority appropriately and
judiciously is critical to the work of law enforcement and to the crime-fighting relationships we
build in the community.
This historic MOA is a milestone in our ongoing efforts to reform our use-of-force policies and
procedures, and to make the Metropolitan Police Department a national model in this area. This
MOA will strengthen our department. The MOA codifies many of the reforms we have already
initiated in such critical areas as use-of-force training, policies, investigations, and reporting and
tracking. Let me give you one example.
A little more than three years ago, the majority of our officers had not completed mandatory
firearms certification within that previous year. Many had not gone through training in several
years. Today, every sworn member of our department, from the chief of police on down,
completes firearms training twice a year; and if they don't, they can't continue being a
Metropolitan Police officer. That's just one of the reforms that will be institutionalized and
improved upon with the signing of this MOA.
The MOA also identifies areas where we need to implement new policies and programs; for
example, the development of a personnel performance management system to track both
exemplary and troublesome conduct on the part of individual officers.
This MOA will also enhance officers' safety through better policies, better training, and better
equipment. We're giving our officers the tools they need to do their jobs and to do them in a way
that enhances their own safety and the safety of the community.
Much of our new training focuses on tactics and techniques, on ways to help officers avoid
dangerous situations that require the use of force in the first place. We've equipped our officers
with new, less-than-lethal weaponry and, under this MOA, we are making significant upgrades in
our K-9 unit policies, procedures and training.
Finally, this MOA will improve the quality of the service we provide to the community.
The MOA identifies those key areas where we need to continue to get better. These reforms are
critical to making the MPD a more professional, more responsive and higher-quality
Just as importantly, the memorandum of agreement sets specific time lines for implementing
these tasks, and it requires monitors, both internal and external, who will track our progress. This
process is an open book. We will be held accountable not only to the Justice Department, but
also to the community for how we perform. The bottom line is we will be in a better position to
serve the community and do so in much stronger partnerships with the community.
I want to thank Attorney General Ashcroft and also his predecessor, Ms. Reno; Steve
Rosenbaum, as I mentioned before, and all the Justice Department staff members and
outside experts who came in and helped us work on this project. Just as my staff and I are
working to make the Metropolitan Police Department a national model of community
policing, I think this process that we undertook can also serve as a national model for
conducting these types of investigations and achieving real reform and not doing so in an
Thank you very much.
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: Yes.
Q. You mentioned that there's been progress already in what's happening with excessive force in
the department. Did you find in your review that the problem was mainly a lack of training, or
was there some sort of culture within the department?
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: Well, first of all, we're very grateful for the decline. If you get as igh
as 16 a year and you're down into the neighborhood of four, sometimes as low as two, that's a
major achievement, when you interpret it against the decline in the crime rate generally, so that
we haven't had to give up law enforcement at all to do this.
I think the chief indicated that the matter of training was very significant, and one of the things
that caught my eye was that training involves even the use of dogs; the way dogs are deployed
can make a difference -- 70 percent decline in the incidence of canine bites. So that I don't know
if you can divorce training from culture, but whenever you signal by training that this is
something that's important, you establish a new culture of attention to the details. And I would
yield to the other gentlemen for their response.
CHIEF RAMSEY: I agree with that. I think really it's a combination of both. If you don't have
policies and procedures in place and you don't reinforce it through training, then you create a
culture where people can begin to believe that, you know, it doesn't matter how much force they
use because no one is monitoring it to begin with.
So I think that we can create an environment that causes us to have problems in the area of use of
force; we can also create an environment where we also can be this model that we're talking
about in terms of how we deal with the public and how we use force, not just deadly force, but
throughout the use-of-force continuum. That's something that we've begun doing. It certainly
does change the behavior of the officers. And having this in place is only going to strengthen that
because it really does have a lot of teeth in it, and it's going to hold us accountable, and we
should be held accountable.
Q. Chief Ramsey, on that point, the Civilian Complaint Review Board -- (off mike) -- start ain in
January. What is the status of all those hundreds of cases that were left to the police department
to take care of? (Off mike.)
CHIEF RAMSEY: The 800-or-so cases from 1995 that were passed along to the police
department at the breakup of the original CCRB, is that what you're referring to, Tom?
CHIEF RAMSEY: They have all been dealt with. Now, they haven't been dealt with in a timely
fashion. I admit that at the time they were passed out to the department, the department did not
make the investment in the resources it should have in order to do it in a timely fashion. As a
result of that, a lot was lost in the investigations. Any investigation that isn't investigated
immediately, certainly the outcome of it could be different than perhaps it would have been had it
been done properly. But they have been resolved.
Our job now, and of course through this MOA, is to have things in place where we don't allow
these kinds of delays to take place and there is a more clearly defined process. I think that's in the
letter that accompanies this MOA that the Justice Department -- they make reference to that.
Q. Did the study find that there was a core group of officers that may have been responsible for a
lot of these cases of excessive force, or were they spread out among the force itself? And what --
CHIEF RAMSEY: Well, some of that I could probably could actually defer to Steve, who did
most of the work on this.
But let me just say that I think that there are some officers whose past behavior has been one
where they tended to use greater amounts of force than other officers over time. That's part of the
reason why it's part of this MOA. There is an insistence on the part of the Department of Justice,
and I agree with it fully, that we need this performance management system in place so that we
can detect early on changes in officers' behavior that might indicate to us that there is a problem.
We don't want it to escalate to the point where you're talking about serious uses of force, both
deadly force as well as anything else that could cause great bodily harm to an individual.
But that's why we need to track that very, very carefully, and start with things such as verbal
abuse complaints, things that one may look at and not consider to be important, but it's a sign of
more serious behavioral problems later on.
Q. What kind of resources are attached to this agreement? And then, when you talk about teeth
being put in it to make sureit's implemented, what are those teeth?
CHIEF RAMSEY: Well, as far as resources, much of what's going to be done now, a lot of the
uses of force, serious uses of force, including deadly force and some non-deadly force, will be
handled by our Force Investigation Team. That means I have to increase the number of members
assigned to that particular unit. We'll also be increasing the overall size of our Office of
Professional Responsibility. We're taking a lot of the investigations that had been formerly
conducted in the District away from the districts and it will be conducted by the Force
Investigation Team and the Office of Professional Responsibility, those that don't fall under the
CCRB, because, depending on the type of case, some of them will go to the CCRB. So there is an
expenditure of manpower or redeployment of manpower regarding this.
The teeth are very simple. If we don't come into compliance, we can be taken to court. And quite
frankly, if we were taken to court, I don't think we'd stand much chance of winning. That's why I
think that this is something that benefits both our department, it benefits the Department of
Justice, and most importantly, it benefits the citizens that we serve.
Q. (Off mike) -- home rule to sign agreements with the Justice Department?
CHIEF RAMSEY: Well, now Sam, I'll let the mayor handle that home rule part of that. That
sounds to me kind of like one of those questions I don't want to touch. Okay?
But as far as our signing this agreement, it's the right thing to do. I asked for help from the
Justice Department because I couldn't fix this problem by myself. And I took a chance,
quite frankly, because the Justice Department, prior to this we didn't know about one
another, we never really worked that closely on issues like that, like what we're talking
about now, and didn't really know what the outcome would be. It has proven to be
something that I would urge any police chief anywhere in this country to reach out and to
get the kind of cooperation and assistance the DOJ is capable of providing and provided us.
It is the right thing to do. It's helping us put together the policies, the procedures, the
training that's state of the art, the very best practices in the United States and elsewhere
that we will be able to put together here in the Metropolitan Police Department. We
couldn't have done that without the Department of Justice and their assistance, couldn't
have done it at all. And I believe that we should be held accountable. There is no issue more
important than use of force on the part of police officers.
And unfortunately, I can't stand here and guarantee that there will never be a situation where an
officer will not have to resort to deadly force, but if they do so, the community and everyone
needs to be assured that they have done so under circumstances that were such there were no
other alternatives, and that these offices are thoroughly trained, and there's a complete and
thorough independent investigation just to make sure that everything is above board.
Q. Attorney General Ashcroft, I want to ask a home rule question. Thirteen members of the City
Council are in favor of electing a local attorney general, local prosecuting attorney. This is the
third stool of the home rule -- (off mike) -- elected legislature, elected mayor -- (off mike) --local
prosecuting attorney. For the Bush administration, what is your personal view on the citizens of
the District of Columbia electing their own local prosecuting attorney? As you know, the U.S.
attorney prosecutes all crimes in the District.
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: You know, let me just say this on this topic here. That the pattern and
practice jurisdiction of the Justice Department is a nationwide jurisdiction. And when we were
invited in to make an evaluation that's consistent with those kinds of responsibilities, it doesn't
single Washington, D.C., out and differentiate it from a number of other communities where this
kind of activity is under way. We've announced that this kind of activity is under way in
Cincinnati. You know about that. And there are a number of other cities across the country. Los
Angeles has recently been involved. So it would be unfair to characterize what's being done here
in this universe as somehow singling out the District of Columbia for unique or differentiated
What is unique about this is that the leadership of the District of Columbia has come to the
Justice Department and asked for us to work together, and we have made a decision that we
should work together and receive this good faith and to memorialize it, rather than with a consent
decree in the court, with a memorandum of understanding which requires substantial compliance
to recognize the responsibilities, which are national in scope and inure to every city in America.
And if, as a of fact, for some reason this compliance is not forthcoming, then the memorandum
of understanding provides that the jurisdiction of the Justice Department will be able to move
toward the kind of enforcement that has been more traditional in this area, with the mandates
from the court system.
Now, if you're asking me for a position on the home rule question, I'm not prepared to comment
on that now.
Q. Would the Bush administration stop the city from moving ahead to elect their own local
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: I think my answer to that is the same as my answer was on the
(Chuckles.) I'm not prepared to comment on that.
Q. (Off mike) -- the Civil Rights Division is investigating a number of other cases of alleged
police misconduct in many locations, including one in (Fenwick ?) County that has been ongoing
for more than a year. You said last week before Congress and before the District Committee --
(off mike) -- that you did not want those inquiries to languish -- (off mike). Can you point to any
specific actions that you've taken to expedite the resolution of those cases -- (off mike)?
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: First of all, I've made it clear that I would hope that we can begin
progress as early in the process as is possible. This is a great case in point. As a matter of fact, I
indicated that I thought the District of Columbia could be a model for the way its police conduct
themselves with regard to their citizens, but our cooperation could be a model for the way the
Justice Department works with police departments.
What's interesting about this case is that we asked for and cooperated with the department to
begin making changes before the end of the process, and I have indicated that that's the way I
want the department to move forward; that as soon as we find something that can be done to
improve the situation, we don't catalogue that and wait for the end of the investigation and for the
outcome and then announce, "These are the things that you've got to do, under court order." We
begin to provide the help and assistance, the resources in terms of expertise and the like, for
changes to be made readily. And that's the kind of philosophy that I have asked be undertaken in
the Civil Rights Division, and I'm very pleased that that philosophy has persisted in this case to
the point of having the kind of improvements which are announcable at the conclusion of the
Rather than now we starting a reform, we're announcing results of reform. A 70 percent decline
in canine bites is substantial. Moving from 16 fatal shootings a year to four or to two is very
substantial, and that's the way we want to cooperate. I would hope we'll be able to expedite these
matters on a cooperational basis, rather than a confrontational basis.
And I just have to add one final thing, that the department will never yield its capacity under the
law to do what is necessary to do, either by consent decrees or going to court, but to the extent
we can make the progress we need to with memoranda of understanding and agreements such as
this one that's been struck in this area, and do so on an expedited basis, we deliver to people the
defense of their liberties at an earlier date, and that's what I'm very pleased to have an opportunity
Q. Do you intend to apply that model in cases where -- (inaudible)?
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: I would hope to be able to apply it in any case that the division is
Q. What about New York, General Ashcroft? Is there any move to perhaps have an agreement
like this with New York, which has had similar problems -- (off mike)?
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: As a matter of policy, my door will always be open to reaching
conclusions which can remediate the pathologies we face, to solve the problems we face at
earliest possible time, with a credible expectation that we have enforceability and the cooperation
of the departments.
Q. General, a question on a different topic. June 25th will be the fifth anniversary of the Khobar
Towers bombing. As of yet, the -- (inaudible) -- filed any charges in that case. Can you tell me
whether the department will in fact bring charges, indictments, and if so, will they include any
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: It's really the prudent policy of this department not to make
announcements or comment upon investigations or the lack thereof while they may or may not be
in process, and I'm going to adhere to Ms. Reno's outstanding example in setting that precedent.
Q. Off mike) -- to determine compliance and noncompliance? What says that they're not
compliant or they are compliant?
ATTY. GEN. ASHCROFT: Well, the monitoring that's provided for under this agreement, which
has been stated by the chief and by the mayor, is twofold. And I should probably indicate that it's
even more substantial than that. But there is a Justice Department responsibility to continue to be
involved with the city. There is an independent evaluator's responsibility to monitor compliance,
and then we believe that there is enough transparency that's a part of the way the department will
operate and the way in which the system will operate and the agreement will be understood, so
that the public has the opportunity to monitor this.
And the agreement will only be successfully concluded at the end of a five-year period if, as a
result, there is a minimum of at least two years of very substantial compliance that extends to the
end of the five-year period. Now, obviously we'd be very pleased to have five years of total
compliance, and we expect five years of total effort.
When you're talking about 100 different recommendations and opportunities, it's going to take
some time for implementation, but the road to a complete and satisfactory set of compliances has
been charted out and mapped and I think we have the will, the energy and the capacity to reach
Q. General Ashcroft, the new crime stats out today from the department show a 15 percent drop in
violent crime. That seems to conflict, at least on the surface, with the FBI stats out a few weeks
ago. Which stats are you relying on in -- (off mike)?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: Well, the statistics which were released today with the 15 percent
decline in violent crime are a result of a very substantial survey which interviews about 160,000
Americans about the nature of crime and the impact on their lives. We feel that it's a very
important survey and by and large feel like it tracks with FBI data. I will be happy to make
available to you people from the department who could compare the data and go over it with you.
But we believe that this is a very important step forward in the reduction of crime. When you get
a 15 percent reduction, that's one out of every seven crimes that would have happened last year
doesn't happen this year. And that, in our view is a very, very favorable sign.
Q. General Ashcroft?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: Yes?
Q. In the Chandra Levy case, what can you tell us about the FBI's involvement in -- (off mike)?
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: I'm not prepared to make any comment on that case today.
Q. And Chief Ramsey, are you able to speak to what you're doing today as far as the Chandra
CHIEF RAMSEY: The investigation is continuing. In fact, I spoke with the sheriff out in
Modesto, California, today just to see if there was anything new on that end. There isn't. It's still
an ongoing missing person investigation. The FBI has worked very hard with us because of the
fact that this involves not only someone who was employed by the Bureau of Prisons, but
alsowe're talking about her -- she traveled back and forth between California and a lot of the
witnesses are spread out all over the country.
So we really have nothing new to report and, again, people to give us a call if they have any
Q. Thank you.
Q. Chief Ramsey, just a question about -- (off mike) -- Mr. Rosenbaum. You said it was
incredibly difficult, or very difficult, and it took two years. Why was it so difficult? What was the
CHIEF RAMSEY: Well, I mean, you're talking about a lot of changes in policies, training,
practices, some things we agreed on, some things we may not have agreed on. But we were able
to work through every single issue as it came up. It was just a tremendous amount of work. We
had a system that was pretty broken in terms of our ability to actually be able to monitor, even,
our uses of force. I mean, just trying to get data going back past 1998 is nearly impossible, and I
certainly wouldn't stand here and say that it's accurate. So, we had all those --
Q. (Off mike.)
CHIEF RAMSEY: It wasn't resistance. It was simply trying to work through tough issues. And
we were able to do that. And going through drafts is like writing something. If you've got to
through several drafts, it's never quite right. In fact, the final one you may look back on later and
think you could have some something different.
But, you know, the mayor has been -- and again, he was what, a month in office when I came to
him with this bomb about
Q. Off mike.)
CHIEF RAMSEY: -- (laughs) -- about working DOJ? And, I mean, he stood tall and was very,
very supportive from the very beginning.
And it is because of that kind of support that we were able to work through those tough issues
and we're here today.
Q. And the officers --
ATTY GEN. ASHCROFT: May I just conclude this by again thanking the mayor and the police
chief for their willingness to move forward, in conjunction with the department, for outcomes
which are going to be a very great benefit to the people who live in this city, and as a person who
spends a lot of time in this city and has a home in this city, that I'm grateful to them and look
forward to working with them for this improved performance on the law enforcement -- by the
law enforcement community, which results in greater freedom and an elevated quality of life for
all our citizens.
Thank you very much.
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