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P3298: SAP - Win/Loss Analysis Survey Results: Johnson & Johnson
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Government Exhibit P3298
Key Business Profile and Logistics
Survey Summary Johnson & Johnson is the world's most comprehensive and broadly based manufacturer of health care products, as well as a provider of related services, for the consumer, pharmaceutical and medical devices and diagnostics markets. Johnson & Johnson has 197 operating companies in 54 countries around the world employing 107,000 employees and selling products in more than 175 countries. Mr. Chuck Wyckoff, vice president Atlas Project, and Mr. Fernando Lopez, senior programmer/analyst, said that Johnson & Johnson has been standardizing and "aligning IT operations around two vendors, SAP and J.D. Edwards." Mr. Wyckoff explained that SAP is the standard for the company's consumer side of IT operations, and J.D. Edwards is the standard for the manufacturing side. The company did not release a formal RFP. "The functionality of SAP's [CRM] solution, the integration of its manufacturing and financial modules, and the efficiency and speed of its order entry and purchasing software, are very impressive," Mr. Lopez explained. The company has decided to standardize on SAP because it feels that SAP is a market leader. Johnson & Johnson has asked SAP to build a prototype that would demonstrate the integration of order entry functions into manufacturing and billing functions, Mr. Lopez said. "We have a mainframe-based Cobol system that is good, but it cannot do this kind of integration, which we feel is necessary to move manufacturing closer to our consumer operations." Mr. Lopez stated that the company will build its CRM system to integrate and help improve its supply chain operations to more efficiently handle requests and other information directly from the thousands of doctors and the "huge [pharmaceutical] retailers" that make up Johnson & Johnson's customer base. "By tying requests directly to inventory and manufacturing, we will be able to respond and deliver products more quickly and efficiently on a global basis," he said. "We'll also be able to do things like consolidated billing and other flexible billing functions. The end result will be a much better experience for our customers." Mr. Wyckoff said that the SAP implementation team will work with Accenture and Johnson & Johnson's IT people to build the integrated system, which is scheduled to go live sometime in early 2004. Mr. Lopez said that he gives SAP a score of four-and-a-half out of a possible five for the quality of the company and its products. "You have to know, I never give perfect scores to anything," he added. "This is extremely high praise from me." Both Mr. Wyckoff and Mr. Lopez indicated that they were extremely impressed with the caliber of SAP's sales lead Mr. John Zgurzynski, and SAP's "technical" lead Mr. Ian Brophy, with regards to your their knowledge, responsiveness, and commitment to the project. Mr. Lopez did say, however, that he feels that SAP's consulting fees are "exorbitant," and about 30 percent higher, on average, than consulting fees at comparable companies. Survey Results Business Needs Mr. Lopez explained that Johnson & Johnson is moving to integrate and migrate their IT operations closer to their customers to enable closer ties between manufacturing, inventory and customer product requests, resulting in more efficient delivery of products and billing methods. Mr. Lopez indicated that Johnson & Johnson's Cobol-based mainframe system is difficult to program for such a task. Selected Vendor Mr. Lopez explained that SAP was chosen for two distinct and primary reasons. The first reason was political, as Johnson & Johnson is officially standardizing on SAP for the consumer side of its IT operations, and J.D. Edwards for its manufacturing side. The second reason was the robustness and quality of the demo prototype that SAP showed to Johnson & Johnson. "The speed and efficiency of SAP's order entry functions is remarkable," Mr. Lopez said. Competition Mr. Wyckoff explained that there was no formal competition for the project. "It was essentially SAP's to lose, but they didn't disappoint," he said. Solution Features and Functionality Mr. Lopez said that the quality of SAP's "pharmaceutical retail financial modules" was the determining factor in SAP's win. Demonstration Mr. Lopez described the demo prototype that SAP built as "wonderful," and "well thought out" for following the kind of "integration of operations" that Johnson & Johnson was looking for. SAP Sales Personnel Evaluation Mr. Lopez stated that he was very impressed with the knowledge and commitment shown by SAP's Mr. John Zgurzynski and Mr. Ian Brophy. Partners Johnson & Johnson is employing Accenture to work with SAP on the installation. Mr. Wyckoff described Accenture as a good company that "knows their stuff." Accenture has handled systems integration for Johnson & Johnson in the past. Pricing Mr. Lopez said that SAP was "responsive" with regards to pricing their system, which consists of a "standard" package including training and maintenance. Mr. Lopez did say, however, that he thought SAP's consulting fees were much too high, about 30 percent higher than those of comparable companies. Return On Investment/Total Cost of Ownership Mr. Wyckoff and Mr. Lopez said that their company will work with Accenture to conduct ROI studies of the system after it is installed. Implementation Mr. Lopez said that speed, cost and ease of implementation appear to be strong elements of SAP's offering. References Mr. Lopez said that no references were offered by SAP. Events and Trade Shows Neither Mr. Wyckoff nor Mr. Lopez remembered seeing SAP at any recent trade shows or events that they attended. Final Decision and Interviewees' Roles Mr. Lopez said that although he and his colleagues were following the "alignment" around SAP, the company's "win" was not a sure thing. "They had to perform well and show us why we are focusing important operations around them," he explained, adding that he was a key influencer and decision maker during this process. Contact List
North America Win/Loss data is SAP confidential, proprietary and/or trade secret information intended for SAP internal use only. Disclosure and protection of this type of information is governed by SAP's employee Confidentiality Agreement and any unauthorized disclosure will be deemed a violation thereof. North America Win/Loss reports may not be distributed externally without the recipient's signature on non-disclosure agreements or prior SAP executive management approval. As Win/Loss information is highly confidential, internal distribution of Win/Loss data is restricted and the posting of data in electronic forms must receive prior written approval by the North America Win/Loss Program Management. Prepared by Impole Corporation 11/20/02 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
